For years, we were told the Democratic Party was fine. Now even a few party elders are admitting it’s broken. But naming the problem isn’t enough. We need primaries.
There used to be a time when the Democratic Party stood for workers and UNIONS. but the Democratic Party has left its main constituency behind, preferring to court Wall Street.
The "uneducated voters" noticed and fell prey to Trump's fake populism.
Listen to AOC and Bernie if you want to have that kind of crowd behind you.
They are resolutely and unapologetically pro worker and pro Unions .
Remember that before Bernie was betrayed by Blue Dog Democrats and sacked, he was running away with every primary. His message was unstoppable.
I'm part of "that kind of crowd". What do you mean by that? I voted for Bernie Sanders twice. He was the answer to my prayers, to be dramatic. I haven't been represented by the Democrats for decades. I was left behind by Bill Clinton and the "New Democrats." I'm still resentful that the Dems thwarted Bernie Sanders surging campaigns TWICE, helped by the ex-president Obama, who I derisively call the Holy O.
I think Cecile is saying that the Bernie/AOC represent a "crowd" (70% of voters, I've read time and again) that the same 70% want behind them (not the DNC).
The Liberal party of Canada defeated the MAGA Maples last night. The Democrats could take a page out of the Canadian Prime Minister's playbook. We have a great quality of life, better distribution of wealth, and social safety net including universal health care 🇨🇦 No wonder Trump wants to stamp us out and make us the 51st state- we are living the living proof that what Bernie and AOC are talking can happen!
I consider myself a Centrist Democrat. The issue is where is the center? The Democrats have allowed the Republicans to drag the Overton Window to the right for fifty years. I consider the center to be positioned directly over Medicare for All. I vividly remember Biden informed us that “we can’t afford M4A and I would veto it”. What total bullshit. That set the tone for Biden’s four years .
Everything revolves around money. When we talk about “taxpayer dollars paying for stuff”, we are talking about local or state governments. They are users of the federal government issued dollars. The federal government works differently since every dollar they spend is a new dollar issued for the purpose. Every dollar they spend is spent into the US dollar economy. Those dollars spent into the economy are the dollars We the People live on, our wealth. Obsessing over the size of the accounting identity “Federal Deficit” is ridiculous. Taxes paid to the federal government cannot possibly fund any expenditures as they no longer exist. The health of the economy should regulate federal government spending. Federal government austerity is used to control people, not to save money.
We the People need to wise up to this and not believe the bullshit we are being fed.
God bless you for pointing out how our monetary system works! So few people - even many pundits and leaders - seem not to understand this. The federal government does not need to "save" money -- federal spending is how money gets into the economy in the first place. Reduce federal spending and you reduce the national money supply. The issue is not the sheer level of federal spending or "debt" (we have a debt-based currency system) but whether the funds are being spent to meet the actual needs of the country, or are they going largely, uselessly, to further enrich those who already have too much money?
When Bernie ran in '16 and '20, he definitely would have raised taxes on the richest segment of the country and used that increase to cover Medicare for All. He wasn't bluster. He showed people the math. The ones who use $$$ to control others (and there are lots of Dems in there) didn't like the idea of sending the elevator back down.
What we need is more competition. We need for there to be more than just two viable political parties. That is no going to happen while we are using plurality voting and it is not going to happen with ranked-choice voting either.
YES YES YES YES. I'm tired of the finger wagging sermonizing vote shaming. If the two party system worked we wouldn't have people looking for alternatives. We're supposed to have a choice and two parties is just too close to having only one. They're two sides of the same coin.
Thanks for the info. Yeah, we tried "ranked choice' voting for the first time a couple of years ago. I'm in NYC. We ended up with Eric Adams as mayor. Obviously ranked choice is not a panacea.
We need new people please! I was not happy with the new DNC Martin, more of the same old party. We missed a chance to choose a dynamic guy like Winkler. And here in Oakland, CA, the dem party fully supported retired congresswoman Lee? Really? Instead of Taylor, another dem? They have to stop making the same mistakes!
The DNC leadership needs to go. The rich top 1% oligarchs who are running the DNC behind the scenes need to GOOO! Hold real primaries that are not rigged. 2016, 2020 and 2024 RIGGED Democratic Party Process destroyed the party and gave us candidates nobody wanted and nobody believed in. Just beccuse they go a lot of votes in the general doesn't mean ANYBODY wanted them In 2016, 2020, or 2024. The DNC forced Hillary Clinton on us but the voters hated her. In 2020 the DNC forced Joe "DEMENTURE BASEMENT DWELLER" on us. The establishment had to OPENLY STEAL A NATIONAL PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION to get idiot puppet Biden the job. Then have the fakenews act like it never happen. Then 2 WEAK empty suits Kamala Harris and Tampon Tim Walz with no message, very little campaigning, just the last 2 weeks running around like they had it in the bag. Almost like they were counting on the establishment to STEAL IT AGAIN to keep Trump out. I have been a loyal democrat my entire life. But the 2016 primaries I watched that sneaky corrupt bastard James Carville come out from the rock he was hiding under and appear on @CNN & @MSNBC to help them tank the obvious peoples/VOTERS choice Bernie Sanders for Crooked Hilary Clinton. I have not tuned in to MSNBC or CNN following the Clinton Primary Steal in 2016. Bernie Sanders ran away with California and it huge electoral vote count yet the MSNBC, CNN and the rest of the #fakenews refused to give Bernie his California win. It was an awakening. I knew Bernie was way ahead in all the major polls that were not corrupted. The 2020 primary was the same scenario. Bernie running away with it. So the oligarchs ordered the steal from Bernie again. I voted for Trump in 2024. And I don't regret it. They left us no choice. Trump is more of a Democrat than any of the empty suit blowhards the Democratic Party has rigged the nomination for at lease since 2015.
You don't have to agree. Its a free country. All Biden did was exactly what Top 1% on Wall Street wanted. He broke EVERY IMMIGRATION LAW ON THE BOOKS Illegally aided and abetted 14 Million Illegal Aliens to ILLEGALLY walk over the border at our (99%) expense to LOWER WAGES for American workers and raise PROFIT MARGINS s for all International Corporations and their TOP EXECUTIVES that do business with America. That is not Democratic Party policy. That is Oligarchy Policy 101. If we needed more workers tell the people and push Congress to pass new Immigration laws. But the top 1% like millions of non-citizen immigrants living in the shadows for LOW WAGES and receiving US tax payer paid Welfare, Medical, Section 8 Housing, Food Stamps and free college. Yet not one of the Top 1% ers will pay a dime more in taxes for these ILLEGAL ALIENS to live here when they will benefit the most. Demented top 1% controlled PUPPET Joe Biden gave the Establishment TOP 1% controlled Republicans and Democrats exactly what they wanted. Like I said Trump is more of a Democrat than Biden. Biden is a CLOWN. Wall street did not complain at all for 4 years as millions of ILLEGAL CRIMINALS flooded the border. Now Wall Street are all up in arms about TARIFFS because they do not want to Pay American Workers a liveable wage. Joe Biden contributed to the EVER INCREASING Wage Gap between rich and poor. It was intentional.
I think the vision Bernie & AOC are articulating need to be packaged into an easily understandable "Contract for America" type statement. It needs to articulate the roles of government and private enterprise, and the utility of each. Government serving the common good and private enterprise allowing innovation and profit that "the market will bear". I thought the democratic primaries way back when the "debates" were issue focused and allowed each candidate to demonstrate knowledge, experience, understanding, and problem-solving strategies were good. MORE of that! I'm personally turned off by people "fighting" and more turned on by people calmly and rationally getting things done. I think the Vision needs to be simplified to reforming government to serve the common good, using the best expertise and technology available. Campaign Finance reform and fairly taxing wealth is paramount.
Understand, but the best leadership is using influence to facilitate progress and not worrying about who gets credit! We are too personality focused for better and worse!
No. They screw Bernie in the primaries "He's not a Democrat" they whine. Damn right he's not a Democrat. X-( Then they take his big issue and get credit for it. Yeah I want him to be acknowledged. He's carried the torch for years. The Dems get the benefit of the light and then blow it out. (OK maybe I stretched the metaphor a bit too much. )
You know when Republicans are creating this kind of posting, and confuse everyone, if there is any cracks starting to show is with trump voters and the economy and 65% chance of recession.
So, where do we go from here? Yeah, cracks are starting to show in Trump's MAGA coalition, but there are nearly two more years of destruction to go.
My question is, will we rebuild the Democratic Party in time to make something better happen? Or will we waste this moment trying to resurrect the same failed strategies that brought us here?
This isn't just about winning elections. It's about creating a party that stands for something, one that can deliver the kind of America working people deserve. A party that competes rather than just complains. The window for transformation is opening. The question is whether we have the courage to walk through it.
Two more years of destruction to go. I wish we had a whole different political system. maybe a parliamentary one where there seems to be more flexibility. Ours is ossified.
So, where do we go from here you say! I say exactly the same place.They knew Biden sucked. They knew Kamala was weak, They knew everyone hated Hillary. Yet they were controllable so they rig the nomination for them anyways.
The corrupt DNC will rig it again for Kackling Kamala, Tampon Tim or some other compromised weak corrupt insider puppet for the rich. And whoever the GOP nominates will win again. The Democratic Party for the people is no more. Well they are for some people, a very small minority of Trans/Woke/and Welfare queens/kings living off the taxpayer. They Democratic Party is a wing of the Republican Party.
I agree with you but the name calling is too right wing Trumpy. Kackling Kamala? She's' not supposed to laugh? Or her laugh isn't demure & lady like, giggly behind a geisha fan? Where the F does this come from? Tampon TIm? I don't want to know what that refers to. Come on. You can make the same point without all that. What's next? Sleepy Joe? P.S. FULL DISCLOSURE You wouldn't like my laugh either. Too bad. I'll turn up the volume just for you.
There's been cracks in the Democratic Party ever since Bernie Sanders ran for president in 2015 and again in 2020. The crack is widening. The two party system does not work.
Bernie talks about real problems that exist for most Americans. Like a rigged Political System, A rigged Financial System, Rigged Wealthy Tax advantages, a crumbling Infrastructure, Over priced Secondary Education, and Over priced Housing. All issues caused by Rich GREEDY CORRUPT Top 1%ers who are stealing Americas wealth, BRIBING POLITICIANS, and are doing everything in their power to make sure nobody hears Bernie Sanders or AOC or anyone talks like them gets on any major media outlets.
Cracks are the best thing that could happen to the Democratic Party.
The historic Democratic icons FDR, and JFK would laugh at what passes for policy in their beloved party. Although they were upper class they understood that victory for their party depended on appealing to working class voters. Current party leaders distain the “deplorable” and “racist” members of the working class.
A laundry list of things for Democrats to keep and to dump if they ever want to actually win again nationwide.
Keep a woman’s right to choose for the first trimester.
Dump abortion until birth unless the mother’s health is at risk or the fetus is not viable.
Keep a concern for climate change and the environment and grow nuclear power.
Dump intermittent, unreliable renewable energy that requires backup continuous generating capacity which is then used intermittently. A ridiculously expensive approach. Even more important, realize that the stifling maze of environmental procedures that now must be followed to build anything has raised the price of necessities like mass transit and housing that the working class needs to survive. Figure out how to build stuff quickly.
Keep and develop new effective vaccines.
Dump vaccine mandates.
Keep equality of opportunity for all.
Dump equity of results based on discriminating against men, whites and Asians in a futile attempt to compensate for past discrimination against women and blacks. Recognize that D.E.I. Is unconstitutional.
Keep the protection of gay and lesbian rights.
Dump men in women’s sports, private spaces and prisons. Oh, and mutilating children who might grow up to be gay.
Keep an opportunity for selective high value immigration.
Dump sanctuary cities and open borders.
Keep helping the homeless find jobs and a place to live.
Dump camping in cities, shitting in the streets and allowing open drug use.
Keep a concern for due process in criminal justice.
Dump letting shoplifters and other petty thieves off the hook and releasing predators back on the streets without bail to kill and maim again.
Keep support for unions and fair wages
Dump “free trade” policies that have devastated our manufacturing sector.
Do all of the above and start governing like you know what the fuck you’re doing and you might just find your way back to power.
I have always been a DTS voter. Mostly, I vote the D brand because there is no independent party, let alone an independent candidate who can envision the real 'murka - a very diverse and mostly oppressed group of folks who simply cannot keep up with all the lies, distortions, extortions, bribes, beauty contests, slights-of-hand and dumbing down coming from the capitalist control center.
My family and region growing up were mostly true conservatives, some of that very decent, hard working and reliable, and the rest loaded to the gills with myopic prejudice, lack of accurate information, and an overload of religious hypocrisy.
Not for me. As I watched the D brand across the decades, it became obvious to me that being educated often led to elitism, professional power and personal wealth. The blue collar foundation of democracy, the unionized vote, went by the wayside, partially because it became infiltrated with corporate moles, and partly due to its own seductions to greed and power. Being any shade of DEI as a real person meant you were excluded from both fake parties, who became nothing but sycophants to the corporate empires with fealty to wealth and classism. Racial parity, itself a lie, became a false flag with which the elite controlled the working masses.
In short, 'murka has always been a nation built on lies that covered up the glaring truths of its landed leadership and those dupes who became adherents to that myopic bandwagon rah, rah rah. We were an inclusive nation IF you fell in line with what the power brokers from both 'sides' told you to be, say and do. The 'leadership' of both 'sides' embodies the same very tired, ugly, ignorant and deceitful strategies that have been in place for two centuries.
This is why either 'party' is just a hollow skeleton hanging in the corner of some science lab or doctor's office. To rebuild either caricature is nothing but another hot mess of BS. Non-human animals and virtually all plants are the only living beings who demonstrate the intelligence and sacrifice needed to pull off the unity necessary to survive the struggles of living on Earth. Humans are merely living out a death wish they instituted into society long ago when they uttered the first phrase of 'trust me, the check is in the mail, and only I can fix this, so fuck off and get out of my way.' Imagine an entire population of one species constantly saying that to itself across 3k years.
Is it any wonder that 'murkan society is deluded and mystified by some bloated street barker in front of a strip joint? Perversion is so easy - dignity and responsibility is just too difficult. This is why we bark and howl and roar about the dirty concrete and asphalt while the intelligent ecology of this planet shrinks to nothing, and as it goes away, so will we.
This Humpty Dumpty was never worth fixing, let alone creating in the first place. We will not build our way out of this trainwreck, or vote it out, or finance it away, or out-compete it in some Super Bowl of Futility. The citizenry, right now, must STOP doing everything that feeds this idiotic and destructive monster, and refuse to obey its pathetic orders and edicts. You either kill the parasite, or it eats you, full stop.
Meaningful changes are not in how you win elections, they are about how you make life better for all after you've been elected. But, for as long as making profits for owners of means of production and capital is the leading, that is, only driving force in the system our society is based on, no meaningful changes are possible. All that can be done in these conditions is more pretending the existing system can fix problems it created. And that's exactly what our politicians on both sides of the aisle are doing.
For a positive example of what is being advocated here, please see Steve Fulop’s campaign for NJ Governor. It’s the main thing keeping me sane right now: that someone seems to know how to walk the WALK. I hope others will take courage and run like this.
I left the Democrat party in spirit in 2016. 50 years a Democrat, I watched the party under Hillary Clinton eat their young at that convention. I had given almost 100% of a month's social security to Bernie Sanders and I worked on data entry for him for a couple of months. When he asked me to vote for HRC, I changed to NPA in the state of Florida. And in 2020, I changed my party to Dem so I could vote for Bernie, but after the Obama lead coup taking out Bernie Sanders, I let the Dems call me all summer so that I could explain how angry I was with the party, and I voted for Donald Trump. After the 2020 selection I changed my party affiliation
to Republican but I am MAGA all the way. I had hoped RFK Jr would be Trump's VP in 2024 but what happened was even better. And I have put up with my children, who I raised as Democrats, tolerate my support for the orange-man-bad.
There is no way the Democrat party can be fixed. The only way it survives is for its members to pledge fealty to the lies it is based on, starting with its name. As one of my favorite IG podcasters (3dprintedfordparts) says, "Good luck to you all. And long live the republic."
For many years now people have been giving up on the lost in fog Democrats. The party has indeed lost its original focus of gmfighting for workers and unions to being Republican Lite because too many Democrats in Congress are more interested in their stock portfolios and the elite than what is happening to the country.Get rid of most of the old school thinkers and get more firebrand like AOC and Bernie, Jasmine, Raskin and honestly that's all I can think of besides Booker.
At 82 and a lifetime Democrat, if I can see the need for change and return to their basic tenets, why can't the can't the people who are supposed to represent us?
They were destroyed by Bill Clinton and the neocon "New Democrats." I haven't been represented by the Democrats since then. I'd be a registered Independent but I live in a stupid closed primary state.
There used to be a time when the Democratic Party stood for workers and UNIONS. but the Democratic Party has left its main constituency behind, preferring to court Wall Street.
The "uneducated voters" noticed and fell prey to Trump's fake populism.
Listen to AOC and Bernie if you want to have that kind of crowd behind you.
They are resolutely and unapologetically pro worker and pro Unions .
Remember that before Bernie was betrayed by Blue Dog Democrats and sacked, he was running away with every primary. His message was unstoppable.
I'm part of "that kind of crowd". What do you mean by that? I voted for Bernie Sanders twice. He was the answer to my prayers, to be dramatic. I haven't been represented by the Democrats for decades. I was left behind by Bill Clinton and the "New Democrats." I'm still resentful that the Dems thwarted Bernie Sanders surging campaigns TWICE, helped by the ex-president Obama, who I derisively call the Holy O.
I think Cecile is saying that the Bernie/AOC represent a "crowd" (70% of voters, I've read time and again) that the same 70% want behind them (not the DNC).
The Liberal party of Canada defeated the MAGA Maples last night. The Democrats could take a page out of the Canadian Prime Minister's playbook. We have a great quality of life, better distribution of wealth, and social safety net including universal health care 🇨🇦 No wonder Trump wants to stamp us out and make us the 51st state- we are living the living proof that what Bernie and AOC are talking can happen!
Thank you, Mireille! LIVING PROOF! Congratulations!
I consider myself a Centrist Democrat. The issue is where is the center? The Democrats have allowed the Republicans to drag the Overton Window to the right for fifty years. I consider the center to be positioned directly over Medicare for All. I vividly remember Biden informed us that “we can’t afford M4A and I would veto it”. What total bullshit. That set the tone for Biden’s four years .
Everything revolves around money. When we talk about “taxpayer dollars paying for stuff”, we are talking about local or state governments. They are users of the federal government issued dollars. The federal government works differently since every dollar they spend is a new dollar issued for the purpose. Every dollar they spend is spent into the US dollar economy. Those dollars spent into the economy are the dollars We the People live on, our wealth. Obsessing over the size of the accounting identity “Federal Deficit” is ridiculous. Taxes paid to the federal government cannot possibly fund any expenditures as they no longer exist. The health of the economy should regulate federal government spending. Federal government austerity is used to control people, not to save money.
We the People need to wise up to this and not believe the bullshit we are being fed.
God bless you for pointing out how our monetary system works! So few people - even many pundits and leaders - seem not to understand this. The federal government does not need to "save" money -- federal spending is how money gets into the economy in the first place. Reduce federal spending and you reduce the national money supply. The issue is not the sheer level of federal spending or "debt" (we have a debt-based currency system) but whether the funds are being spent to meet the actual needs of the country, or are they going largely, uselessly, to further enrich those who already have too much money?
When Bernie ran in '16 and '20, he definitely would have raised taxes on the richest segment of the country and used that increase to cover Medicare for All. He wasn't bluster. He showed people the math. The ones who use $$$ to control others (and there are lots of Dems in there) didn't like the idea of sending the elevator back down.
What we need is more competition. We need for there to be more than just two viable political parties. That is no going to happen while we are using plurality voting and it is not going to happen with ranked-choice voting either.
YES YES YES YES. I'm tired of the finger wagging sermonizing vote shaming. If the two party system worked we wouldn't have people looking for alternatives. We're supposed to have a choice and two parties is just too close to having only one. They're two sides of the same coin.
Take a look at the series of articles at https://www.opednews.com/populum/seriespage.php?r=326&s=time_sorting It is mostly about this very issue.
A good place to start might be the following article: https://www.opednews.com/articles/What-is-so-Special-about-B-Approval_Balanced-Voting_Voting_Voting-Machines-241208-232.html
Thanks for the info. Yeah, we tried "ranked choice' voting for the first time a couple of years ago. I'm in NYC. We ended up with Eric Adams as mayor. Obviously ranked choice is not a panacea.
If you have any doubt where the Democratic Party is heading, despite the ass whooping they got last November, check out the shit show at the DNC between Chair Ken Martin, who's supports incumbent Democrats, and Vice Chair David Hogg, who's supporting new candidates trying to primary incumbents. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/24/dnc-chair-swipes-at-david-hogg-you-have-to-make-a-decision-00307247
We need new people please! I was not happy with the new DNC Martin, more of the same old party. We missed a chance to choose a dynamic guy like Winkler. And here in Oakland, CA, the dem party fully supported retired congresswoman Lee? Really? Instead of Taylor, another dem? They have to stop making the same mistakes!
What we need is a brand new party
The DNC leadership needs to go. The rich top 1% oligarchs who are running the DNC behind the scenes need to GOOO! Hold real primaries that are not rigged. 2016, 2020 and 2024 RIGGED Democratic Party Process destroyed the party and gave us candidates nobody wanted and nobody believed in. Just beccuse they go a lot of votes in the general doesn't mean ANYBODY wanted them In 2016, 2020, or 2024. The DNC forced Hillary Clinton on us but the voters hated her. In 2020 the DNC forced Joe "DEMENTURE BASEMENT DWELLER" on us. The establishment had to OPENLY STEAL A NATIONAL PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION to get idiot puppet Biden the job. Then have the fakenews act like it never happen. Then 2 WEAK empty suits Kamala Harris and Tampon Tim Walz with no message, very little campaigning, just the last 2 weeks running around like they had it in the bag. Almost like they were counting on the establishment to STEAL IT AGAIN to keep Trump out. I have been a loyal democrat my entire life. But the 2016 primaries I watched that sneaky corrupt bastard James Carville come out from the rock he was hiding under and appear on @CNN & @MSNBC to help them tank the obvious peoples/VOTERS choice Bernie Sanders for Crooked Hilary Clinton. I have not tuned in to MSNBC or CNN following the Clinton Primary Steal in 2016. Bernie Sanders ran away with California and it huge electoral vote count yet the MSNBC, CNN and the rest of the #fakenews refused to give Bernie his California win. It was an awakening. I knew Bernie was way ahead in all the major polls that were not corrupted. The 2020 primary was the same scenario. Bernie running away with it. So the oligarchs ordered the steal from Bernie again. I voted for Trump in 2024. And I don't regret it. They left us no choice. Trump is more of a Democrat than any of the empty suit blowhards the Democratic Party has rigged the nomination for at lease since 2015.
Trump is more of a Democrat? That's some strong dope you're smoking. I'm a Bernie voter too.
You don't have to agree. Its a free country. All Biden did was exactly what Top 1% on Wall Street wanted. He broke EVERY IMMIGRATION LAW ON THE BOOKS Illegally aided and abetted 14 Million Illegal Aliens to ILLEGALLY walk over the border at our (99%) expense to LOWER WAGES for American workers and raise PROFIT MARGINS s for all International Corporations and their TOP EXECUTIVES that do business with America. That is not Democratic Party policy. That is Oligarchy Policy 101. If we needed more workers tell the people and push Congress to pass new Immigration laws. But the top 1% like millions of non-citizen immigrants living in the shadows for LOW WAGES and receiving US tax payer paid Welfare, Medical, Section 8 Housing, Food Stamps and free college. Yet not one of the Top 1% ers will pay a dime more in taxes for these ILLEGAL ALIENS to live here when they will benefit the most. Demented top 1% controlled PUPPET Joe Biden gave the Establishment TOP 1% controlled Republicans and Democrats exactly what they wanted. Like I said Trump is more of a Democrat than Biden. Biden is a CLOWN. Wall street did not complain at all for 4 years as millions of ILLEGAL CRIMINALS flooded the border. Now Wall Street are all up in arms about TARIFFS because they do not want to Pay American Workers a liveable wage. Joe Biden contributed to the EVER INCREASING Wage Gap between rich and poor. It was intentional.
Amen!
I think the vision Bernie & AOC are articulating need to be packaged into an easily understandable "Contract for America" type statement. It needs to articulate the roles of government and private enterprise, and the utility of each. Government serving the common good and private enterprise allowing innovation and profit that "the market will bear". I thought the democratic primaries way back when the "debates" were issue focused and allowed each candidate to demonstrate knowledge, experience, understanding, and problem-solving strategies were good. MORE of that! I'm personally turned off by people "fighting" and more turned on by people calmly and rationally getting things done. I think the Vision needs to be simplified to reforming government to serve the common good, using the best expertise and technology available. Campaign Finance reform and fairly taxing wealth is paramount.
And some credit given to them please. Biden's making insulin affordable was stolen directly from Bernie Sanders. It was his signature issue.
Understand, but the best leadership is using influence to facilitate progress and not worrying about who gets credit! We are too personality focused for better and worse!
No. They screw Bernie in the primaries "He's not a Democrat" they whine. Damn right he's not a Democrat. X-( Then they take his big issue and get credit for it. Yeah I want him to be acknowledged. He's carried the torch for years. The Dems get the benefit of the light and then blow it out. (OK maybe I stretched the metaphor a bit too much. )
You know when Republicans are creating this kind of posting, and confuse everyone, if there is any cracks starting to show is with trump voters and the economy and 65% chance of recession.
So, where do we go from here? Yeah, cracks are starting to show in Trump's MAGA coalition, but there are nearly two more years of destruction to go.
My question is, will we rebuild the Democratic Party in time to make something better happen? Or will we waste this moment trying to resurrect the same failed strategies that brought us here?
This isn't just about winning elections. It's about creating a party that stands for something, one that can deliver the kind of America working people deserve. A party that competes rather than just complains. The window for transformation is opening. The question is whether we have the courage to walk through it.
Two more years of destruction to go. I wish we had a whole different political system. maybe a parliamentary one where there seems to be more flexibility. Ours is ossified.
So, where do we go from here you say! I say exactly the same place.They knew Biden sucked. They knew Kamala was weak, They knew everyone hated Hillary. Yet they were controllable so they rig the nomination for them anyways.
The corrupt DNC will rig it again for Kackling Kamala, Tampon Tim or some other compromised weak corrupt insider puppet for the rich. And whoever the GOP nominates will win again. The Democratic Party for the people is no more. Well they are for some people, a very small minority of Trans/Woke/and Welfare queens/kings living off the taxpayer. They Democratic Party is a wing of the Republican Party.
I agree with you but the name calling is too right wing Trumpy. Kackling Kamala? She's' not supposed to laugh? Or her laugh isn't demure & lady like, giggly behind a geisha fan? Where the F does this come from? Tampon TIm? I don't want to know what that refers to. Come on. You can make the same point without all that. What's next? Sleepy Joe? P.S. FULL DISCLOSURE You wouldn't like my laugh either. Too bad. I'll turn up the volume just for you.
There's been cracks in the Democratic Party ever since Bernie Sanders ran for president in 2015 and again in 2020. The crack is widening. The two party system does not work.
Bernie talks about real problems that exist for most Americans. Like a rigged Political System, A rigged Financial System, Rigged Wealthy Tax advantages, a crumbling Infrastructure, Over priced Secondary Education, and Over priced Housing. All issues caused by Rich GREEDY CORRUPT Top 1%ers who are stealing Americas wealth, BRIBING POLITICIANS, and are doing everything in their power to make sure nobody hears Bernie Sanders or AOC or anyone talks like them gets on any major media outlets.
We must avoid becoming a mirror image of MAGA, which would encompass a similar level of injustice and disrespect for civil liberties as MAGA.
Cracks are the best thing that could happen to the Democratic Party.
The historic Democratic icons FDR, and JFK would laugh at what passes for policy in their beloved party. Although they were upper class they understood that victory for their party depended on appealing to working class voters. Current party leaders distain the “deplorable” and “racist” members of the working class.
A laundry list of things for Democrats to keep and to dump if they ever want to actually win again nationwide.
Keep a woman’s right to choose for the first trimester.
Dump abortion until birth unless the mother’s health is at risk or the fetus is not viable.
Keep a concern for climate change and the environment and grow nuclear power.
Dump intermittent, unreliable renewable energy that requires backup continuous generating capacity which is then used intermittently. A ridiculously expensive approach. Even more important, realize that the stifling maze of environmental procedures that now must be followed to build anything has raised the price of necessities like mass transit and housing that the working class needs to survive. Figure out how to build stuff quickly.
Keep and develop new effective vaccines.
Dump vaccine mandates.
Keep equality of opportunity for all.
Dump equity of results based on discriminating against men, whites and Asians in a futile attempt to compensate for past discrimination against women and blacks. Recognize that D.E.I. Is unconstitutional.
Keep the protection of gay and lesbian rights.
Dump men in women’s sports, private spaces and prisons. Oh, and mutilating children who might grow up to be gay.
Keep an opportunity for selective high value immigration.
Dump sanctuary cities and open borders.
Keep helping the homeless find jobs and a place to live.
Dump camping in cities, shitting in the streets and allowing open drug use.
Keep a concern for due process in criminal justice.
Dump letting shoplifters and other petty thieves off the hook and releasing predators back on the streets without bail to kill and maim again.
Keep support for unions and fair wages
Dump “free trade” policies that have devastated our manufacturing sector.
Do all of the above and start governing like you know what the fuck you’re doing and you might just find your way back to power.
I have always been a DTS voter. Mostly, I vote the D brand because there is no independent party, let alone an independent candidate who can envision the real 'murka - a very diverse and mostly oppressed group of folks who simply cannot keep up with all the lies, distortions, extortions, bribes, beauty contests, slights-of-hand and dumbing down coming from the capitalist control center.
My family and region growing up were mostly true conservatives, some of that very decent, hard working and reliable, and the rest loaded to the gills with myopic prejudice, lack of accurate information, and an overload of religious hypocrisy.
Not for me. As I watched the D brand across the decades, it became obvious to me that being educated often led to elitism, professional power and personal wealth. The blue collar foundation of democracy, the unionized vote, went by the wayside, partially because it became infiltrated with corporate moles, and partly due to its own seductions to greed and power. Being any shade of DEI as a real person meant you were excluded from both fake parties, who became nothing but sycophants to the corporate empires with fealty to wealth and classism. Racial parity, itself a lie, became a false flag with which the elite controlled the working masses.
In short, 'murka has always been a nation built on lies that covered up the glaring truths of its landed leadership and those dupes who became adherents to that myopic bandwagon rah, rah rah. We were an inclusive nation IF you fell in line with what the power brokers from both 'sides' told you to be, say and do. The 'leadership' of both 'sides' embodies the same very tired, ugly, ignorant and deceitful strategies that have been in place for two centuries.
This is why either 'party' is just a hollow skeleton hanging in the corner of some science lab or doctor's office. To rebuild either caricature is nothing but another hot mess of BS. Non-human animals and virtually all plants are the only living beings who demonstrate the intelligence and sacrifice needed to pull off the unity necessary to survive the struggles of living on Earth. Humans are merely living out a death wish they instituted into society long ago when they uttered the first phrase of 'trust me, the check is in the mail, and only I can fix this, so fuck off and get out of my way.' Imagine an entire population of one species constantly saying that to itself across 3k years.
Is it any wonder that 'murkan society is deluded and mystified by some bloated street barker in front of a strip joint? Perversion is so easy - dignity and responsibility is just too difficult. This is why we bark and howl and roar about the dirty concrete and asphalt while the intelligent ecology of this planet shrinks to nothing, and as it goes away, so will we.
This Humpty Dumpty was never worth fixing, let alone creating in the first place. We will not build our way out of this trainwreck, or vote it out, or finance it away, or out-compete it in some Super Bowl of Futility. The citizenry, right now, must STOP doing everything that feeds this idiotic and destructive monster, and refuse to obey its pathetic orders and edicts. You either kill the parasite, or it eats you, full stop.
Meaningful changes are not in how you win elections, they are about how you make life better for all after you've been elected. But, for as long as making profits for owners of means of production and capital is the leading, that is, only driving force in the system our society is based on, no meaningful changes are possible. All that can be done in these conditions is more pretending the existing system can fix problems it created. And that's exactly what our politicians on both sides of the aisle are doing.
For a positive example of what is being advocated here, please see Steve Fulop’s campaign for NJ Governor. It’s the main thing keeping me sane right now: that someone seems to know how to walk the WALK. I hope others will take courage and run like this.
I left the Democrat party in spirit in 2016. 50 years a Democrat, I watched the party under Hillary Clinton eat their young at that convention. I had given almost 100% of a month's social security to Bernie Sanders and I worked on data entry for him for a couple of months. When he asked me to vote for HRC, I changed to NPA in the state of Florida. And in 2020, I changed my party to Dem so I could vote for Bernie, but after the Obama lead coup taking out Bernie Sanders, I let the Dems call me all summer so that I could explain how angry I was with the party, and I voted for Donald Trump. After the 2020 selection I changed my party affiliation
to Republican but I am MAGA all the way. I had hoped RFK Jr would be Trump's VP in 2024 but what happened was even better. And I have put up with my children, who I raised as Democrats, tolerate my support for the orange-man-bad.
There is no way the Democrat party can be fixed. The only way it survives is for its members to pledge fealty to the lies it is based on, starting with its name. As one of my favorite IG podcasters (3dprintedfordparts) says, "Good luck to you all. And long live the republic."
For many years now people have been giving up on the lost in fog Democrats. The party has indeed lost its original focus of gmfighting for workers and unions to being Republican Lite because too many Democrats in Congress are more interested in their stock portfolios and the elite than what is happening to the country.Get rid of most of the old school thinkers and get more firebrand like AOC and Bernie, Jasmine, Raskin and honestly that's all I can think of besides Booker.
At 82 and a lifetime Democrat, if I can see the need for change and return to their basic tenets, why can't the can't the people who are supposed to represent us?
They were destroyed by Bill Clinton and the neocon "New Democrats." I haven't been represented by the Democrats since then. I'd be a registered Independent but I live in a stupid closed primary state.
Same here.